PLAN COMMISSION – ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
CITY OF COUNTRYSIDE
Tuesday, October 1, 2013 – 7:30 P.M.
Roll Call Members:
Mr. Richard Fullmer, Jr. (Chairman)
Ms. Tina Grotzke Mr. Robert Lube
Mr. Richard Toth Mr. Charles Stoub
Mr. Mark Benson Mr. Crecencio Gonzalez
Mr. Bryon Bednar Mr. Michael Anderson
Approval of Minutes:
September 10, 2013
1. Public Hearing 1: Public hearing notice is not required for this consideration.
REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF A REHEARING FOR A SWIM SCHOOL AT THE REAL ESTATE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 9930 WEST 55TH STREET, COUNTRYSIDE, ILLINOIS 60525.
THE APPLICANT IS MR. MARTIN BROWN; WHOSE ADDRESS IS 1314 MAPLE STREET, WESTERN SPRINGS, ILLINOIS 60558. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS LAND TRUST #3227; ITS ADDRESS IS 8728 WEDGEWOOD DRIVE, BURR RIDGE, ILLINOIS 60527.
2. Public Hearing 2: Public hearing notice for the proposed text amendment was published in the August 22, 2013 edition of The Doings Newspaper.
A TEXT AMENDMENT TO A PORTION OF THE CITY OF COUNTRYSIDE, IL MUNICIPAL CODE (ZONING ORDINANCE) AS FOLLOWS:
CONSIDERATION OF AMENDTING TITLE 10 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE AS FOLLOWS:
1. AMEND SECTION 10-5A-5 (A) (YARD AREAS) – TO CONSIDER REVISING THE THIRTY FOOT (30′) FRONT YARD SETBACK STANDARD.
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE PLAN COMMISSION AND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
FOR THE CITY OF COUNTRYSIDE, IL
HELD IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2013
Chairman Fullmer called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. Secretary Lube called the Roll of Members physically present:
PRESENT: Chairman Richard Fullmer, Jr., Secretary Robert Lube, Mr. Charles Stoub, Mr. Michael Anderson, Mr. Mark Benson, Ms. Tina Grotzke, Mr. Crecencio Gonzalez IV, Mr. Bryon Bednar.
ABSENT: Mr. Richard Toth
ALSO PRESENT: Atty. Peck, EDC Swanson.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The first order of business was approval of the minutes of the September 10, 2013 meeting. Mr. Stoub moved to approve the minutes as presented, seconded by Mr. Gonzalez and carried unanimously.
Chairman Fullmer stated the Rules of Proceeding for the hearing before the Plan Commission – Zoning Board of Appeals will follow a strict order of presentation. A sign-in sheet for interested persons is located at the podium. This hearing is being recorded. Please silence all cell phones and pagers.
REHEARING FOR SWIM SCHOOL, 9930 WEST 55TH STREET
Chairman Fullmer stated that no Public Hearing Notice is required for this consideration.
Request for Consideration of a Rehearing for a Swim School at the real estate commonly known as 9930 West 55th St, Countryside, IL 60525.
The Applicant is Mr. Martin Brown, 1314 Maple Street, Western Springs, IL 60558. The property owner is Land Trust #3227, whose address is 8728 Wedgewood Drive, Burr Ridge, IL 60527.
Attorney Peck stated that there has been a request for rehearing from Mr. Brown. At the last hearing the PC/ZBA recommended that the project go forward the but City Council did not concur. By City Ordinance, the applicant cannot reapply for a special use for one year. However, there is a provision in the City Code that allows for the reapplication only if new evidence of substantial change is proposed. The applicant is present tonight requesting such a rehearing. The PC/ZBA must decide if the applicant is proposing a substantially different plan. EDC Mr. Swanson stated that Mr. Brown is absent but his partner is here; he will present a new space design for 9,000 s.f., instead of the original 14,000 s.f. The parking requirement is for 45 spaces not including handicap spaces. The site plan provides for 42 regular parking spaces so a special use is still required. The City Council previously denied both motions for special use and for the parking variance.
Mr. Michael Thiessen, 3920 Central Ave., Western Springs, IL 60558, stated that Mr. Brown is not able to attend tonight due to a teaching schedule conflict. He stated that the project has been redesigned which should help alleviate the parking variance. They can safely function with 9,000 s.f. rather than the original 14,000 s.f. He provided two renderings for the Board and stated that there are now 39 self-contained parking spaces plus 2 handicapped spaces for a total of 41 – they are four short. He pointed out various ways of entering and exiting the parking area for greatest efficiency. He also stated that they will provide a fish hook that restricts for L-turn out – R-turn in – directing traffic south to 55th St. and not north towards the residential area. There was some discussion re: parking across the street but that was not considered safe.
Mr. Thiessen displayed the new schedule for swim classes; due to pool size, a limited number of students can be accommodated – classes of 30 with 8 instructors – for 2, 3 and 4-year olds – so the maximum people allowed would be 38, assuming all classes are filled. Staff members would park off-site. Mr. Benson stated that is a residential street and nearby restaurants require parking. Mr. Thiessen stated that Café Salsa has allowed them the use of their lot.
Mr. Lube stated that nothing has changed since the original hearing except usage. Mr. Thiessen stated that they provided for extra time between classes. Board members noted that attending family members will create parking chaos. Chairman Fullmer concurred stating there is no essential change in the conditions; the numbers did not change; the use is not viable. Mr. Lube suggested knocking the wall down to make extra parking spaces. Board members are not against the concept of a swim school, but this location has insufficient parking that has not been addressed. Board members agreed; the area is too congested to accommodate additional parked cars.
There were no further questions from Board members and no comments from interested parties.
Mr. Gonzalez moved to deny the rehearing request for a special use for the swim school and the parking variance, seconded by Mr. Stoub and carried by Roll Call vote – 8/0/1.
PUBLIC HEARING FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO TITLE 10
Chairman Fullmer read the Public Hearing Notice for the proposed text amendment published in the August 22, 2013 edition of The Doings Newspaper.
A Text Amendment to a Portion of the City of Countryside, IL Municipal Code (Zoning Ordinance) as follows:
Consideration of amending Title 10 of the Municipal Code as follows:
Amend Section 10-5A-5 (A) (yard areas) – to consider revising the 30-foot front yard setback standard.
EDC Mr. Swanson stated that in 2001 the City adopted an ordinance allowing the 30′ front yard setback minimum for all new home construction. Previously, the placement of new homes reflected the setbacks of adjacent homes or a split the difference rule of thumb. Property owners utilize rear yards more than front yards. Moving a structure further back on the property provides for more owner maintenance re: snow shoveling on longer driveways.
In August the Infrastructure Committee instructed Staff to review the existing front yard setback standards. The question tonight is should this law be altered or remain as is. Board members asked whether the Building Department has received complaints re: the setback. Mr. Swanson stated there were no complaints. Mr. Stoub discussed the homes in Ward 2 – which are set back perhaps 50 feet; owners do not appreciate new homes being set back only 30 feet; in the past they would split the difference.
Chairman Fullmer also agreed to the split the difference rule that applied years ago. Mr. Lube stated that if a new homeowner wishes to split the difference today, they can come in for a variance. Mr. Gonzalez discussed creating a parking issue if the home/ garage is closer to the street. Due to the great variety of lot sizes within the City, enforcement of this restriction would be problematic. Mr. Benson recommended leaving the ordinance as is. Board members agreed.
Mr. Benson moved to not amend Section 10-5A-5 (A) to consider revising the 30′ front yard setback standard, seconded by Mr. Gonzalez and carried by Roll Call vote – 8/0/1.
Mr. Swanson seeks clarification re: Location of Swimming Pools – Section 10-2-17 – He provided a plat of survey and photographs of a 6,500 s.f. property showing the pool located ten feet from the house and shed, three feet from the fence and seven feet from the pergola. After discussion, Board members agreed that the pool location is acceptable as presented.
Mr. Swanson stated that at the November hearing two variances will be addressed — one for an additional 32 s.f. monument sign on Joliet Road – from the Cook County Farm Bureau. The second request is to establish a 100% retail business – Tuesday Morning – they need a parking variance. Also T-Mobile will probably be on the agenda for illuminated signage.
Potbelly’s may come in to renegotiate the RDA with Shorewood Development. Hooters’ plans to open on December 1. Texas Roadhouse opened to bustling crowds. Clocktower Pointe will begin construction shortly with a rental building – built in the same fashion as the existing building.
There being no further business to discuss, Mr. Lube moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Ms. Grotzke and carried by Roll Call vote – 8/0/1.
Chairman Fullmer declared the meeting adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
RICHARD FULLMER, JR., CHAIRMAN